You’re saying that only 1/3 of people coordinate nominations-- well, a lot of participants don’t nominate at all! And many of the ones who do prefer to nominate the things they really care about themselves, rather than rely on someone else who may change their mind without telling them. (Which is a dick move, but it can and has happened.)
People have been saying it all damn day on discord and here.
I can’t speak to what people have been saying on discord, as I haven’t been keeping up with the chat, but I don’t see anyone here saying you’re forcing them. I see some people pushing back how you’re going about this.
You keep bringing up CR fandom as an example of why tagset bloat isn’t a problem. How many of those 15 fics were people who actually matched on that fandom, and how many were treats? I have no experience with CR, other than seeing some people talk about it in passing. I don’t know if there’s a lot of overlap in who likes which characters, or if there’s a large divide between fans of certain characters who don’t want anything to do with the others (as happens in some fandoms). For another example, let me propose Baby-Sitters Club. There were 16 characters in the tagset. 6 of them were parents, many of whom barely appear in the books-- or don’t appear on-page at all, in one case. 5 of them were members of the titular BSC, and the main characters. The rest were (mostly male) siblings who get shipped together in various ways. It’s a diverse tagset, and it really complicates offers and requests. I don’t want to request any if I don’t care about Jeff Schafer, even if I want stories about everyone else, etc. etc.
Now, if you genuinely want a character in the tagset? Definitely do it, or coordinate with someone else (if that’s your style)! But if you’re just adding characters because you think people might hypothetically want them? That’s kind of annoying, and makes things harder on people who had their offers/requests all planned out.
I know you mean well and you probably just really want everyone to enjoy participating in Misses Clause and the chromatic challenge. But many (most!) people don’t participate in those challenges, even if they’re writing about women or POC. So perhaps that’s why this is rubbing many people the wrong way? If you had just reminded people to coordinate nominations, without reminding them to nominate disabled people/POC/women/LGBTQ people, I think this would have gone off better.
Let me say that again, because I don’t think you understand:
If you had just reminded people to coordinate nominations, without reminding them to nominate disabled people/POC/women/LGBTQ people, I think this would have gone off better.
I don’t think you meant it this way, but it stinks of wanting brownie points. It implies that people who nominate straight white men aren’t as good. And that’s not cool.
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People have been saying it all damn day on discord and here.
I can’t speak to what people have been saying on discord, as I haven’t been keeping up with the chat, but I don’t see anyone here saying you’re forcing them. I see some people pushing back how you’re going about this.
You keep bringing up CR fandom as an example of why tagset bloat isn’t a problem. How many of those 15 fics were people who actually matched on that fandom, and how many were treats? I have no experience with CR, other than seeing some people talk about it in passing. I don’t know if there’s a lot of overlap in who likes which characters, or if there’s a large divide between fans of certain characters who don’t want anything to do with the others (as happens in some fandoms). For another example, let me propose Baby-Sitters Club. There were 16 characters in the tagset. 6 of them were parents, many of whom barely appear in the books-- or don’t appear on-page at all, in one case. 5 of them were members of the titular BSC, and the main characters. The rest were (mostly male) siblings who get shipped together in various ways. It’s a diverse tagset, and it really complicates offers and requests. I don’t want to request any if I don’t care about Jeff Schafer, even if I want stories about everyone else, etc. etc.
Now, if you genuinely want a character in the tagset? Definitely do it, or coordinate with someone else (if that’s your style)! But if you’re just adding characters because you think people might hypothetically want them? That’s kind of annoying, and makes things harder on people who had their offers/requests all planned out.
I know you mean well and you probably just really want everyone to enjoy participating in Misses Clause and the chromatic challenge. But many (most!) people don’t participate in those challenges, even if they’re writing about women or POC. So perhaps that’s why this is rubbing many people the wrong way? If you had just reminded people to coordinate nominations, without reminding them to nominate disabled people/POC/women/LGBTQ people, I think this would have gone off better.
Let me say that again, because I don’t think you understand:
If you had just reminded people to coordinate nominations, without reminding them to nominate disabled people/POC/women/LGBTQ people, I think this would have gone off better.
I don’t think you meant it this way, but it stinks of wanting brownie points. It implies that people who nominate straight white men aren’t as good. And that’s not cool.